The movement to destroy public schools

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Re: The movement to destroy public schools

Postby Meade » Tue May 21, 2013 11:04 am

In 1994, she was invited to speak at a United Nations conference on AIDS. She was asked whether it would be appropriate to promote masturbation as a means of preventing young people from engaging in riskier forms of sexual activity, and she replied, "I think that it is part of human sexuality, and perhaps it should be taught." This remark caused great controversy and resulted in Elders losing the support of the White House. White House chief of staff Leon Panetta remarked, "There have been too many areas where the President does not agree with her views. This is just one too many." Elders was fired by President Clinton as a result of the controversy in December 1994. Elders had previously made a number of other statements that put her in the public spotlight, like her quote in January 1994 "We really need to get over this love affair with the fetus and start worrying about children."

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Re: The movement to destroy public schools

Postby snoqueen » Tue May 21, 2013 11:08 am

Thank you for posting that appreciative tribute. Elders was a fine example and a level-headed realist and I too remember her well. She expresses the opinion of many of us more clearly than I could have done.

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Re: The movement to destroy public schools

Postby Ned Flanders » Tue May 21, 2013 11:10 am

Where does the parent fit into the "sex ed" question? Perhaps a better fit since they can add a moral layer to discussion of the physical acts.

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Re: The movement to destroy public schools

Postby Francis Di Domizio » Tue May 21, 2013 11:15 am

Ned Flanders wrote:Where does the parent fit into the "sex ed" question? Perhaps a better fit since they can add a moral layer to discussion of the physical acts.

Front line. A parent's responsibility is to be engaged 100% in their childs learning experience. Not just about morality and sexuality, but all aspects of education. Great point Ned. Teachers can only do so much if the parents are not involved as well.

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Re: The movement to destroy public schools

Postby wack wack » Tue May 21, 2013 11:15 am

Ned Flanders wrote:Where does the parent fit into the "sex ed" question? Perhaps a better fit since they can add a moral layer to discussion of the physical acts.


Ask the parents.

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Re: The movement to destroy public schools

Postby Bland » Tue May 21, 2013 11:17 am

Ned Flanders wrote:Where does the parent fit into the "sex ed" question? Perhaps a better fit since they can add a moral layer to discussion of the physical acts.

This is valid and reasonable but only to a point since many parents are as uneducated about the actual biological underpinnings of sex as their children are.

Teach the facts in school and let the parents handle the morality.
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Re: The movement to destroy public schools

Postby Meade » Tue May 21, 2013 11:17 am

snoqueen wrote:She expresses the opinion of many of us more clearly than I could have done.

I know. Too bad Bill Clinton fired her instead of learning from her. As a bonus. maybe he could have overcome his shame in being a sexual harasser. No shame -- no need to lie to a grand jury in order to cover up his using his position of power to coerce underlings into having sex with him. No lie -- no impeachment. No impeachment -- no impeachment trial in which he barely got off by the skin of his... crooked penis.

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Re: The movement to destroy public schools

Postby Meade » Tue May 21, 2013 11:20 am

Of course, maybe it was all for the best. Until 1998, many 11 year-old didn't know that it's quite possible to contract an STD by having oral sex with someone who is infected. Yes, even the president of the United States can infect you with an STD if he has already been infected himself by someone else he has previously sexually harassed.

So, it's all good.


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