Quien es mas macho?

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Re: Quien es mas macho?

Postby Mad Howler » Wed Nov 20, 2013 12:08 am

This is fascinating,
Frontline throws down their gage...
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline ... _campaign=
So Oliver is a propagandist,
Any assertion regarding allegiance is unclear.
Is this lack of clarity some form of propaganda?
This narrative seems important to some(body).
It was not to me,
It is only interesting to me NOW that the FL crew chose to...

Tangled web, no?

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Re: Quien es mas macho?

Postby peripat » Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:25 am

Just a very modern take...history is always written from somebody's point of view whether that somebody has any knowledge of the events in question or not. You know, belief trumps truth aided by the fact that there is no truth but there are many beliefs.

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Re: Quien es mas macho?

Postby thebookpolice » Wed Nov 20, 2013 10:45 am

Mad Howler wrote:Is this lack of clarity some form of propaganda?

Indeed.

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Re: Quien es mas macho?

Postby Mad Howler » Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:08 pm

TheBookPolice wrote:
Mad Howler wrote:Is this lack of clarity some form of propaganda?

Indeed.

One should ponder over lack of clarity.
If'n there isn't a nugget to grab onto one should move on.
If'n I failed in providing such nuggets,
I should move on.
Have I failed?
Have we failed?
MH

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Re: Quien es mas macho?

Postby Mad Howler » Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:42 pm

peripat wrote:Just a very modern take...history is always written from somebody's point of view whether that somebody has any knowledge of the events in question or not. You know, belief trumps truth aided by the fact that there is no truth but there are many beliefs.

Thank you.
"You know" that the notion of 'perception is reality' is bunk as well.
We can believe many things, but this does not make them reality.
It might be an example of the relationship between the circus barker and the circus attendees,
Unfortunately/fortunately reality creeps in.
I think that the 'soft sciences' are wising up to this reality.
I am optimistic.

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Re: Quien es mas macho?

Postby thebookpolice » Thu Nov 21, 2013 9:18 am

You guys realize the linked post is a U.S. News and World Report op-ed/review of JFK from 1992, right? PBS has nothing to do with the thing except republishing it as part of their Oswald Frontline episode -- which, by the way, was originally aired in 1993.

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Re: Quien es mas macho?

Postby Mad Howler » Thu Nov 21, 2013 10:23 pm

TheBookPolice wrote:You guys realize the linked post is a U.S. News and World Report op-ed/review of JFK from 1992, right? PBS has nothing to do with the thing except republishing it as part of their Oswald Frontline episode -- which, by the way, was originally aired in 1993.

Thank you.
Snap
Thank you.

I do not know why FL dropped this yesterday, perhaps I worry too much but I found it odd.
https://twitter.com/frontlinepbs/status ... 0664532992

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Re: Quien es mas macho?

Postby Mad Howler » Fri Dec 06, 2013 1:34 am

The sustained quiet activism of Mr. Mandela was very macho.

Cowardly bullies like Cheney,
No

RIP - Mr. Mandela

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Re: Quien es mas macho?

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Re: Quien es mas macho?

Postby peripat » Thu Jan 16, 2014 11:37 am

? One is a trenchant analysis of Ailes, Fox and how they affect modern politics and the other a rather snarky book review, the thesis of which seems to be if you're going to write about Ailes you should ask him first.

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Re: Quien es mas macho?

Postby Mad Howler » Thu Jan 16, 2014 11:41 pm

peripat wrote:? One is a trenchant analysis of Ailes, Fox and how they affect modern politics and the other a rather snarky book review, the thesis of which seems to be if you're going to write about Ailes you should ask him first.

It is a dramatic and evolving dance that is hard to look away from.
PR & propagandists who currently rule the roost should be on notice.
Sadly, I believe, they are working out the next circle to run round us.
And so it goes.

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Re: Quien es mas macho?

Postby Mad Howler » Thu Jun 05, 2014 10:43 pm

Mad Howler wrote:The big lie OR the big truth?

I honestly am not playing around on this one. I have my Catholic grade school "sensibility" in place that leads MY opinion toward fair play, but I am not so sure it translates to the present context. Anyone else want to poke around at this?

MH

p.s.- admin, I reckoned this was the best place to post this thought.


Re-quoting the original post.
'Twas vague - I admit.

I find this work relevant to the OP:
http://www.wpr.org/shows/perks-self-deception
Nicely explored Joy Cardin.

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Re: Quien es mas macho?

Postby Mad Howler » Sat Jun 07, 2014 12:05 am

Mean Scenester wrote:Actually, the SNL skit was the only thing I could discern from the original question ... which made it all clear as dogshit on a subzero day.

Some people just delight at being obtuse and impenetrable, I think. Thomas Pynchon, James Joyce ... and then a whole host of wanna-be intellects unfit to carry the colostomy bags of the aforementioned.

I have not seen the voice of MS here of late.
The above was a very rational punch in my gut at the time.
What else do you have?


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