Comrade wrote:Honestly, I find the ruling to be deeply disturbing. While I agree with their interpretation of the mandate being illegal in terms of the interstate commerce clause, I find their notion that it is acceptable as a tax to be very troublesome.
This goes far beyond healthcare.
Waaaaaay beyond government mandated health care.
But ol avowed socialist barack did promise to "fundamentally change" this country. This is the big one.
The amendment to the constitution granting the power of taxation is clear.
Very true. But in order to have government take some of your money, there has to be a transaction of some sorts, you have to make money, sell an item, live in a fixed residence, etc.
People will now have to pay a "tax" just for living in the US as a citizen.
Hmmmm....watching dual survival as I type this and the last sentence got me to thinking. Maybe roberts viewed obamas government health care payments as a form of "property tax", ya know, even though you're not linked to a specific location with utilities, infrastructure, etc. you are still residing within the US.
So taking socialist thought, if you benefit from it in any way, you must pay for it. So this is the "tax" for "living" in the US proper as everyone here benefits from the US Military, so we all pitch in.
Which then brings up the question....how will the 35 million illegals here then pay for their fair share of this tax?
The avowed purpose of that was to be a funding mechanism for the government. However, we are now using that as a weapon to bludgeon citizens into behavior the government wants.
I do believe you're on to something, comrade.
So, with private insurance, if you smoke, have 20 speeding tickets, don't pay your bills, etc. your rates will be higher because statistically speaking, your "cost" will be more. So, being a private business that has to make a profit in order to survive, they raise their rates on you, the individual and your own lifestyle choices. You can choose those if you want, but your rate will reflect your freedom to choose.
Where does this leave government health care?
Will we all be charged different rates?
If so, then the older, alcoholic, diabetic, cancer survivor would pay a higher rate for the same mandated, complete coverage as a 27 year old (the magic year a child turns into an adult).
Isn't this one of the reasons that socialists (leftist democrats) want government health care, so we all can get it for "free"? I mean, pay the same, EQUAL amount? Why should a 27 year old pay the same as a 67 year old obese smoker?
I think this is where your idea comes in. In order to mandate all us individuals as much as possible, equality and all that jazz, then we must regulate/mandate as much up front as possible.
And this is where all the leftist democrat fixation on what we eat, what we drink, what we smoke, what we drive, what kind of light bulbs we have, etc. come on.
Think about it. It makes perfect sense for further regulation (control) of individuals lives to take place. How else can we all be equal under such circumstances?
The government can now justify using taxes to control people.
The ICC that the new democrat party uses to regulate every individual choice has been deemed not applicable (per roberts), yet he opened up the "tax whatever you wish" door.
But, he is consistent here. To legally own a machine gun or a sawed off shotgun, or a silencer, one has to apply for a "tax stamp" from the ATF. The argument can be made that this is a transaction, but is this not a "tax" upon the use of the Second Amendment? So should every "reporter" or BS blogger also have to pay a "tax" in order to write, speak, or video record?
Both sides of the isle will build on this abuse in the years to come.
To me, this is a great example of why the Tea Party is so valuable. The democrat party has turned into a clueless granola/union mob group of conjobs. The republicans were little more than paycheck collecting, get alongers. The Tea Party put them all on notice last election. Long overdue if you believe in our Constitution and Bill of Rights.
To me, thursday was a very sad day. It was not with the price paid, to achieve this particular objective.
Very historic day on many levels. I don't think a lot of people truly appreciate how the US (and thus, most of the world) changed on that day.