Billionaires pay no state tax

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Re: Billionaires pay no state tax

Postby bdog » Tue Jul 10, 2012 8:10 am

bdog wrote:I don't think we squelch effort and ingenuity by taxing the rich more. We make the rich spend more of that effort and ingenuity to figure out how to get out of paying the higher taxes.


The latest trend: renounce your citizenship

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Re: Billionaires pay no state tax

Postby bdog » Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:33 am

Higher taxes in Maryland chasing out the wealthy

The study, by the anti-tax group Change Maryland, says that a net 31,000 residents left the state between 2007 and 2010, the tenure of a "millionaire's tax" pushed through by Gov. Martin O'Malley. The tax, which expired in 2010, in imposed a rate of 6.25 percent on incomes of more than $1 million a year.

The Change Maryland study found that the tax cost Maryland $1.7 billion in lost tax revenues. A county-by-county analysis by Change Maryland also found that the state’s wealthiest counties also had some of the largest population outflows.

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Re: Billionaires pay no state tax

Postby jonnygothispen » Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:00 pm

It's definitely complicated with so much corporate control over politicians and policy. Since millionaires in America are already enjoying some of the lowest taxes since the lead up to the Great Depression, what's your solution to paying off the debt?

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Postby Detritus » Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:01 pm

And here's the other half of the story that the Free Republic somehow left out of the report (this reposting from CNBC is directly from the Change Maryland website, by the way, but edited to restore a couple of links that were removed in their reposting):
The finding adds to the renewed debate over raising taxes on the wealthy. In New Jersey, Gov. Chris Christie recently vetoed a millionaire’s tax passed by his legislature, while California and other state governments are also considering higher taxes on high earners to fix budget problems. President Obama is expected today to ask Congress to extend tax cuts for those making $250,000 or more – effectively increasing taxes for the higher earners.

Many contend that higher taxes drive out the highly mobile rich, who can simply move to a lower-tax state or even lower-tax country. Recent data shows that a record 1,800 Americans renounces their citizenship last year.

Some argue, however, that there is little real evidence that higher state taxes drive out large numbers of high earners. Neil Bergsman, director of the Maryland Budget and Tax Policy Institute, said while a number of people left the state between 2007 and 2010, others moved in. The net loss, he said, is “very small,” he said.

What’s more, he points out that the wealthy usually move because of a job change, life change or retirement rather than taxes.

“There is no evidence that tax structures are a significant determinant in their location choices,” Bergsman said.

What’s more, he said, Maryland is still minting high-earners and has among the highest incomes and highest concentration of millionaires in the country.

Other studies in New Jersey, Connecticut and Rhode Island have also failed to offer proof that taxes are the main driver of out-migration by the top earners. (See here and here). In some states, weather is a bigger driver of out-migration by the wealthy than taxes.

Still, with top earners paying the largest share of taxes in many high-income states, many politicians don’t want to take the risk of raising tax rates further.

Incidentally, where is the link to the original study? All I've found so far are versions of this report about the study.

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Re: Billionaires pay no state tax

Postby snoqueen » Tue Jul 10, 2012 4:22 pm

If enough of these damn billionaires move to some island with no taxes, maybe we can get a more progressive tax structure for the rest of us.

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Re: Billionaires pay no state tax

Postby fisticuffs » Tue Jul 10, 2012 5:55 pm

This guy needs a 10% tax cut if he's to be expected to create jobs.
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Re: Billionaires pay no state tax

Postby Henry Vilas » Wed Sep 05, 2012 1:52 pm

It isn't just a couple Wisconsin billionaires who pay no taxes. One of their minions in Congress hasn't paid any in four consecutive years.

Wisconsin Department of Revenue records show Republican U.S. Rep. Tom Petri did not pay any state income taxes from 2002 through 2005.

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Re: Billionaires pay no state tax

Postby SlayerDave » Wed Sep 05, 2012 2:19 pm

Henry Vilas wrote:It isn't just a couple Wisconsin billionaires who pay no taxes. One of their minions in Congress hasn't paid any in four consecutive years.

Wisconsin Department of Revenue records show Republican U.S. Rep. Tom Petri did not pay any state income taxes from 2002 through 2005.


That's Cap Times endorsee Tom Petri to you!

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Re: Billionaires pay no state tax

Postby Beaver » Thu Jun 09, 2016 11:58 am

She beat Oprah? I wouldn't have guessed that.

Beloit billionaire posts string of zeros on state returns
http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolit ... 11081.html

"Beloit billionaire Diane Hendricks, the richest woman in Wisconsin and a vice chair of the Trump Victory fundraising committee, didn't pay a dime in state income tax from 2012 through 2014, records obtained by the Journal Sentinel show.

Hendricks, 69, has a net worth of nearly $5 billion, according to an estimate by Forbes Magazine, which this month named her "America's Richest Self-Made Woman" — edging out Oprah Winfrey, who the magazine said had a net worth of $3.1 billion. Judy Faulkner, founder and CEO at Epic Systems Corp., a Verona health care software company, came in third with an estimated net worth of $2.4 billion."

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Re: Billionaires pay no state tax

Postby Roy » Thu Jun 09, 2016 12:56 pm

As disgusting as the billionaires are, they are taking advantage of loopholes. I only blame the idiotic laws that allow it.

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Re: Billionaires pay no state tax

Postby david cohen » Thu Jun 09, 2016 5:48 pm

so Hendricks has 5 billion in assets that she got from her late husband. Those assets might have earned her some income at 15%, but that income was offset by losses as well...so she zeroed that out...I wonder if she paid state income tax in another state besides Wisconsin? WHat about her Federal Taxes?

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Re: Billionaires pay no state tax

Postby Ducatista » Thu Jun 09, 2016 5:58 pm

david cohen wrote:so Hendricks has 5 billion in assets that she got from her late husband.

Hendricks is deplorable, a real "I've got mine so go fuck yourselves" conservative shitheel. But her fortune isn't something she "got from her late husband." Grrrrrrrrrrrr.

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Re: Billionaires pay no state tax

Postby snoqueen » Thu Jun 09, 2016 8:59 pm

She made the $$ in roofing supplies, it seems. In other words, she rode the wave of McMansions with those big multi-peaked roofs that have an acre of shingles per house. Timing is everything. Go Diane.
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Re: Billionaires pay no state tax

Postby david cohen » Thu Jun 09, 2016 9:00 pm

Ducatista wrote:
david cohen wrote:so Hendricks has 5 billion in assets that she got from her late husband.

Hendricks is deplorable, a real "I've got mine so go fuck yourselves" conservative shitheel. But her fortune isn't something she "got from her late husband." Grrrrrrrrrrrr.


Now I recall reading that ABC Supply was run by her late husband...has she always been the principal (not that it is germane to the subject of this thread)?

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Re: Billionaires pay no state tax

Postby Henry Vilas » Tue Jun 28, 2016 3:39 pm

Report: Wisconsin tax credit primarily benefits wealthy

A new report finds that a tax credit passed to benefit manufacturers and agricultural producers in Wisconsin is primarily helping millionaires.

Wisconsin Department of Revenue data included in the report released Tuesday by the Wisconsin Budget Project shows that 78 percent of the tax credits last year went to people earning more than $1 million.

Those millionaires represent the top 0.2 percent of all tax filers in the state.

The Budget Project report shows that the rate of growth in manufacturing jobs has not increased since the law went into place in 2013.


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