Boycott 1310 Sponsors of Rush

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Re: Boycott 1310 Sponsors of Rush

Postby Ducatista » Mon Mar 05, 2012 11:12 am

Huckleby wrote:Isn't this all a echo of the old stereotype of the female as the weaker sex?

No. (And that interpretation strikes me as a bit of a throwback itself.)

Reacting strongly to Rush is not saying "There, there, dear, we'll protect you against the big, mean man." It's an appropriate expression of disgust and dismay at an influential blowhard who not only publicly denigrated an individual woman but, more importantly, promoted an unbelievably regressive attitude toward a major women's health issue.

Thanks, guys, for speaking up.

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Re: Boycott 1310 Sponsors of Rush

Postby rabble » Mon Mar 05, 2012 11:13 am

Huckleby wrote:
rabble wrote:The big deal is that her bosses were so influenced by talk radio that they fired her over the phone while she was on the highway.

I wouldn't say it was talk radio so much as the internet and the cable news and our instant response culture.

Huck, they told her when they fired her that they wanted to do it before Beck aired.

Huckleby wrote:It's not just the right, of course. All political perspectives have easy time stirring up shit storms now.

Like when, for instance? Yeah, shitstorms, like this one, but when has anyone but the right caused a government official to actually fire somebody? Or anything similar?

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Re: Boycott 1310 Sponsors of Rush

Postby pjbogart » Mon Mar 05, 2012 11:14 am

Huckleby wrote:
pjbogart wrote:Oh, and from my occasional forays into the inanity that is Rush Limbaugh, one of his most common local advertisers is some Middleton law firm that specializes in representing men in divorce proceedings. 'Nuff said.


would your view of a law firm that specializes in defending divorced women be the same?

If you have a different feeling about each, what do you suppose causes that?


I think the point was that a law firm specializing in representing men in divorce cases probably isn't too concerned about misogynistic blather spewing from Rush Limbaugh's gaping maw. The women's divorce attorneys are probably better off with Magic 98 for their advertising dollars.

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Re: Boycott 1310 Sponsors of Rush

Postby ilikebeans » Mon Mar 05, 2012 12:00 pm

Huckleby wrote:The Rush Limbaughs & Glen Becks of this world are not a threat.

Couldn't disagree more. Beck's time in the sun has thankfully passed (apparently there is a level of crazy that even Fox won't tolerate), but Limbaugh is perhaps THE key figure in the ascension and radicalization of the far right in this country. His particularly convincing mix of half-truths, outright lies, and pandering to fear and prejudice has been essential in getting the non-1% of conservatives to consistently vote against their own interests.

Why Rush? Because he possesses a level of speaking ability and charisma his peers do not. Rush has been accused of many things over the years; stupidity is not one of them.

rabble wrote:According to Medved, Rush is taking one for the team. He's not really sorry. He's just doing what's best for his true cause.

The only thing he's sorry about, which is in his "apology", is his choice of words. He's not at all sorry about the sentiment; he's only regretting attracting so much unwanted (i.e., non-Dittohead) attention for it.

Has anyone mentioned all of this anti-contraception and "she's a slut" nonsense is coming from a guy who was caught fresh from a vacation to the Dominican Republic with Viagra prescribed to someone else?

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Re: Boycott 1310 Sponsors of Rush

Postby DCB » Mon Mar 05, 2012 12:36 pm

Huckleby wrote:
rabble wrote:
Huckleby wrote:The Rush Limbaughs & Glen Becks of this world are not a threat.

Shirley Sherrod would beg to differ with you.


Shirley Sherrod was hardly damaged by that affair. Free speech worked like a charm

Sorry, I'm not falling for that 'the system is working' bullshit.

She lost her job, with no warning, no recourse, over completely malicious and unfounded charges. For most people, that would be deeply upsetting. Nobody should have to put up with that, regardless of the eventual outcome.

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Re: Boycott 1310 Sponsors of Rush

Postby pjbogart » Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:18 pm

DCB wrote:She lost her job, with no warning, no recourse, over completely malicious and unfounded charges. For most people, that would be deeply upsetting. Nobody should have to put up with that, regardless of the eventual outcome.


I think the Sherrod thing might have been a bit of a rope-a-dope by the Administration. Because she's arguably a public figure it's much harder to sue for libel and slander. She would not only have a higher bar for showing the egregiousness of the libel, but also show significant damages directly connected to it. I think Obama probably fired her with Sherrod's blessing to set her up for a massive lawsuit against Breitbart. I think I read in connection with Breitbart's death that the lawsuit is still in the courts.

That's not to dismiss the outrageous racism and propaganda that Breitbart was shilling, I'm just not sure that Obama's swift reaction to the controversy was all that it seemed.

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Re: Boycott 1310 Sponsors of Rush

Postby Huckleby » Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:24 pm

DCB wrote:She lost her job, with no warning, no recourse, over completely malicious and unfounded charges. For most people, that would be deeply upsetting. Nobody should have to put up with that, regardless of the eventual outcome.

BTW, who is the gtreatest villian here, the media firestorm, or the employer for firing her without a fair hearing?

Regardless of the eventual outcome!? My heavens, that is a strange statement. Up there with, "Besides that Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?" The fact that our system of uncensored information self-corrected, leading to a positive outcome for the damaged party, certainly speaks highly for the worth of free speech.

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Re: Boycott 1310 Sponsors of Rush

Postby Henry Vilas » Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:30 pm

More Limbaugh Advertisers Jump Ship

AOL became the eighth company to announce in a statement online they were removing ads from "The Rush Limbaugh Show," which is the most listened to talk radio show in the United States.

"At AOL one of our core values is that we act with integrity," the company wrote in a post on their corporate Facebook page. "We have monitored the unfolding events and have determined that Mr. Limbaugh's comments are not in line with our values. As a result we have made the decision to suspend advertising on The Rush Limbaugh Radio show."
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In his apology Saturday, Limbaugh admitted his "choice of words was not the best, and in the attempt to be humorous, I created a national stir."

He added, "I sincerely apologize to Ms. Fluke for the insulting word choices."

Appearing on the ABC program "The View" Monday, Fluke said Limbaugh's apology was issued under pressure from advertisers.

"I don't think that a statement like this, saying that his choice of words was not the best, changes anything," Fluke said. "And especially when that statement is issued when he's under significant pressure from his sponsors who have begun to pull their support from the show."

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Re: Boycott 1310 Sponsors of Rush

Postby Huckleby » Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:32 pm

Ducatista wrote:
Huckleby wrote:Isn't this all a echo of the old stereotype of the female as the weaker sex?

No. (And that interpretation strikes me as a bit of a throwback itself.)

oh my. we have to pretend that protective impulses towards women is completely a thing of past, else be accused of sexism!?
We don't live in a world of perfect equality.

Ducatista wrote:Reacting strongly to Rush is not saying "There, there, dear, we'll protect you against the big, mean man." It's an appropriate expression of disgust and dismay at an influential blowhard

I see some of both at play. Although I agree it is mostly the latter.

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Re: Boycott 1310 Sponsors of Rush

Postby Huckleby » Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:38 pm

pjbogart wrote:I think the point was that a law firm specializing in representing men in divorce cases probably isn't too concerned about misogynistic blather spewing from Rush Limbaugh's gaping maw.

I see. Perhaps so.

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Re: Boycott 1310 Sponsors of Rush

Postby Huckleby » Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:44 pm

pjbogart wrote: I think Obama probably fired her with Sherrod's blessing to set her up for a massive lawsuit against Breitbart ... I'm just not sure that Obama's swift reaction to the controversy was all that it seemed.

This seems pretty unlikely, the various supervisors went through a lot of humiliating course corrections before setting things right.

it's not clear that Obama made the call.

I think when you have to choose between management incompetence as an explanation, and a deftly executed conspiracy, almost always you are looking at incompetence.

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Re: Boycott 1310 Sponsors of Rush

Postby Ned Flanders » Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:00 pm

Huckleby wrote:I think when you have to choose between management incompetence as an explanation, and a deftly executed conspiracy, almost always you are looking at incompetence.


But you must take into account that Obama is the smartest person in the world and quite possibly the smartest person in the history of the world.

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Re: Boycott 1310 Sponsors of Rush

Postby lukpac » Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:02 pm

Ned Flanders wrote:But you must take into account that Obama is the smartest person in the world and quite possibly the smartest person in the history of the world.


Wow, I'm surprised you of all people would think that, Ned. Good to know.

I can't say I agree, but don't let me persuade you any differently.

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Re: Boycott 1310 Sponsors of Rush

Postby Huckleby » Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:03 pm

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2012/ ... _from_rush
A Statement from Rush
March 03, 2012
For over 20 years, I have illustrated the absurd with absurdity, three hours a day, five days a week. In this instance, I chose the wrong words in my analogy of the situation. I did not mean a personal attack on Ms. Fluke.

I think it is absolutely absurd that during these very serious political times, we are discussing personal sexual recreational activities before members of Congress. I personally do not agree that American citizens should pay for these social activities. What happened to personal responsibility and accountability? Where do we draw the line? If this is accepted as the norm, what will follow? Will we be debating if taxpayers should pay for new sneakers for all students that are interested in running to keep fit?In my monologue, I posited that it is not our business whatsoever to know what is going on in anyone's bedroom nor do I think it is a topic that should reach a Presidential level.

My choice of words was not the best, and in the attempt to be humorous, I created a national stir. I sincerely apologize to Ms. Fluke for the insulting word choices.


pretty funny. El Rushbo is doubling-down on instance that it's all about "sexual recreational activities."

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Re: Boycott 1310 Sponsors of Rush

Postby pjbogart » Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:21 pm

He also apologized saying that he was sorry for stooping to "their" level.

Dude doesn't even know how to apologize.


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