Gun Mania

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Re: Gun Mania

Postby lukpac » Thu Mar 22, 2012 3:42 pm

Dangerousman wrote:If you're talking about the Florida case I'm not sure it's been established who is the victim. That's the question to be settled.


One person was shot and killed. That person being the kid. Are you suggesting he is *not* the victim?

Dangerousman wrote:But that kid wasn't shot while running away, he was shot during a struggle on the ground.


He may not have been shot while running away, but he *was* trying to avoid anything by running away in the first place.

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Re: Gun Mania

Postby Dangerousman » Thu Mar 22, 2012 3:43 pm

And if he WAS shot while running away then I would strongly condemn such an action. Shooting a fleeing person is something that is very rarely justified.

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Re: Gun Mania

Postby Dangerousman » Thu Mar 22, 2012 3:47 pm

lukpac wrote:He may not have been shot while running away, but he *was* trying to avoid anything by running away in the first place.


Have you seen a picture of George Zimmerman? Not exactly the "Olympian ideal."

You don't think that kid could have outrun him?

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Re: Gun Mania

Postby jimoo742 » Thu Mar 22, 2012 3:48 pm

Dangerousman wrote:

You don't think that kid could have outrun him?



Zimmerman had a car and followed him in it. The kid said he wasn't going to run, but walk fast to the gf.

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Re: Gun Mania

Postby jimoo742 » Thu Mar 22, 2012 3:49 pm

Dangerousman wrote:

If you're talking about the Florida case I'm not sure it's been established who is the victim. That's the question to be settled.



Wait? Who is questioning who the victim is? Is there anyone that isn't batsh*t insane that doesn't think the dead child is the victim?

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Re: Gun Mania

Postby Dangerousman » Thu Mar 22, 2012 3:56 pm

jimoo742 wrote:
Dangerousman wrote:

You don't think that kid could have outrun him?



Zimmerman had a car and followed him in it. The kid said he wasn't going to run, but walk fast to the gf.


The shooting didn't occur from the car, did it? They were both on foot at the time.

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Re: Gun Mania

Postby jimoo742 » Thu Mar 22, 2012 4:01 pm

Dangerousman wrote:
The shooting didn't occur from the car, did it? They were both on foot at the time.



Irrelevant. The kid isn't going to be able to get away from someone following him in a car. Then when the shooter gets out of the car close to him he isn't going to be able to outrun the bullet.

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Re: Gun Mania

Postby Dangerousman » Thu Mar 22, 2012 4:04 pm

jimoo742 wrote:
Dangerousman wrote:
The shooting didn't occur from the car, did it? They were both on foot at the time.



Irrelevant. The kid isn't going to be able to get away from someone following him in a car. Then when the shooter gets out of the car close to him he isn't going to be able to outrun the bullet.


I don't care if he had an F-16, once he's out of the vehicle the chase is on. You have anything to show that the kid was shot as he was running away?

Didn't think so.

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Re: Gun Mania

Postby minicat » Thu Mar 22, 2012 4:07 pm

Anyone who thinks the shootings in Wisconsin or Florida were "justified" -- no matter what the current law is -- is a fucking moral infant.

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Re: Gun Mania

Postby Henry Vilas » Thu Mar 22, 2012 4:10 pm

Dangerousman wrote:...once he's out of the vehicle the chase is on.

Why was Zimmerman chasing the kid... with a gun?

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Re: Gun Mania

Postby jman111 » Thu Mar 22, 2012 4:10 pm

Dangerousman wrote:I don't care if he had an F-16, once he's out of the vehicle the chase is on.

Perhaps "the kid" was demonstrating his right to stand his ground.
It sure would be nice if we had the ability to ask him.

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Re: Gun Mania

Postby jimoo742 » Thu Mar 22, 2012 4:12 pm

Dangerousman wrote:

I don't care if he had an F-16, once he's out of the vehicle the chase is on. You have anything to show that the kid was shot as he was running away?

Didn't think so.


Do you have any that he wasn't? Didn't think so.

"The chase is on"? So you're agreeing that Zimmerman was hunting this boy.

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Re: Gun Mania

Postby Dangerousman » Thu Mar 22, 2012 4:14 pm

minicat wrote:Anyone who thinks the shootings in Wisconsin or Florida were "justified" -- no matter what the current law is -- is a fucking moral infant.


We're all impressed with that mature logical reasoning of yours.

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Re: Gun Mania

Postby jimoo742 » Thu Mar 22, 2012 4:16 pm

Dangerousman wrote:
minicat wrote:Anyone who thinks the shootings in Wisconsin or Florida were "justified" -- no matter what the current law is -- is a fucking moral infant.


We're all impressed with that mature logical reasoning of yours.



At least there was some reason to his post. Haven't seen any in yours.

I find it sickening that now the burden is on a dead boy for not being able to evade / flee a predator in a car with a gun that was hunting him.

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Re: Gun Mania

Postby Dangerousman » Thu Mar 22, 2012 4:17 pm

jimoo742 wrote:
Dangerousman wrote:

I don't care if he had an F-16, once he's out of the vehicle the chase is on. You have anything to show that the kid was shot as he was running away?

Didn't think so.


Do you have any that he wasn't? Didn't think so.

"The chase is on"? So you're agreeing that Zimmerman was hunting this boy.


Hunting? I'd hardly agree with that since there's absolutely no evidence of it. He was following him. But on foot that kid could have easily outrun him. Why didn't he? Does it make sense to you?


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