Henry Vilas wrote:I have a feeling that the average concealed carry permit holder couldn't outshoot the average cop. After all, no prior experience in firing a gun is needed to obtain a permit.
I'm assuming you're referring to the average Wisconsin
concealed carry license holder, since some states do require shooting.
That might be true in a world where the "average permit holder" actually had no prior experience with a gun. But in the real world that is hardly the case. Based on the people I personally know with WI concealed carry licenses, or who have taken courses that I've taught, the average person obtaining a license has had a fair amount of prior experience. This includes combat veterans who individually probably have more real-world combat shooting experience than any randomly-chosen twelve cops have over the course of their entire careers collectively. It also includes a fair number of ex- or retired police officers who obtain a regular concealed carry license because it is less hassle for them than going through the hoops to get the "ex-cop" license under the federal H.R. 218 law.
I've yet to meet anyone wanting a CCL who has absolutely no prior experience with a gun. Not saying those people aren't out there, but I have yet to meet one-- and I probably meet and associate with a lot more people who want a CCL than you do. Last night a man and his daughter approached me in a store and told me they were interested in getting their licenses. A few minutes of conversation convinced me that both have done a lot of shooting. He has a .44 magnum and she has a .45 ACP. About an hour later a friend and colleague contacted me about a neighbor who works at a downtown Madison law firm who is seeking instruction to get her license because she's worried leaving work at night. I'll let you know her experience level when she contacts me. If she's never fired a gun, she'll be the first I've come across.
And those few who do have limited experience all wish to obtain more instruction and experience. I've had a couple tell me they don't intend to carry their guns until they've gained more experience with them. The idea that there are people hitting the streets with their new guns and licenses having never fired a gun is a fantasy of your creation. Just because it is theoretically possible, it's a huge and unsupported leap to suggest that's what actually is happening.
Oh, and by the way, I challenge anyone to find a state that has a shooting requirement that is particularly meaningful. From what I've seen, the requirement demonstrates that a person knows how to load a gun and pull the trigger. That's about it. When I shot to get my MN permit I could have loaded, fired, AND hit the paper with my eyes closed. Someone firing a gun for the very first time could probably do as well, if not better, with their eyes open.
The so-called shooting requirement is about as meaningful as putting gas into a car and turning the key and putting it into gear. That hardly demonstrates any meaningful level of skill driving the car. That's why including a "shooting requirement" is stupid. It's a waste of time. Why include it in the law if it's a meaningless waste of time? The real reason some states include a shooting requirement is to shut up people like you. I'm not saying that in a mean way, but it's true. It's political, and nothing more.