Austin "the redistribution" King is finally gone

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Postby bluethedog » Wed Apr 18, 2007 11:01 am

Taxed wrote:...Vikki Kratz is sure a...

Vikki's a good journalist; I'll give her a mulligan on this one. Just thought it was fair to point out it's not just the "wingnuts" who do this.

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Postby Taxed » Wed Apr 18, 2007 11:09 am

Ed Breakfast wrote:
city channel 12's left wing socialist propaganda


Please show me one example of "left wing socialist propaganda" on MCC-12.
Could if I had recorded it, but tune in to the CC meetings and listen to damn near anything said by Brenda or Robbie.

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Postby Taxed » Wed Apr 18, 2007 11:12 am

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Taxed wrote:In real newspapers that article would not go under a banner declaring NEWS.


Is your goal to soil all of your takes with this toxic persona you've developed for yourself?
Well Saint Joyce, do you really think this a "News" piece?

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Postby pulsewidth modulation » Wed Apr 18, 2007 11:13 am

Stu Levitan wrote:Hey, PM:

See, some of us think there's a value to the citizenry in being able to watch meetings of the Common Council or city committees, or get a chance to question their political leaders on live TV.


With todayâ??s technology, you will still be on "live TV," you will just broadcast via 1's and 0's as opposed to strictly analog. Those 1's and 0's move fairly freely. There are ways to cheaply convert tubes to accept new forms of data. The old broadcasting methods are sooooooo yesterday. Why are you and your old timer buddies trying to protect the past at tax payer expense? Because you're a clown ass historian? Why do I have to remind an ideological progressive that Mad City Broadband is the NEW "access" model? Duh! No one is taking away "access".

Go live on the internet, it's cheaper and more accessible. This constant screech that "access" is being denied is a moot point in the age of EASY access. All you and city channel 12 are trying to protect is tax subsidized socialism. Stop lying to the tax payers.

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Postby Taxed » Wed Apr 18, 2007 11:14 am

bluethedog wrote: Vikki's a good journalist; I'll give her a mulligan on this one
If you give her a mulligan on all such shots you have reduced her score to sub par . . . appropriate.

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Postby Ed Breakfast » Wed Apr 18, 2007 11:19 am

Taxed wrote: Could if I had recorded it, but tune in to the CC meetings and listen to damn near anything said by Brenda or Robbie.


So you're suggesting that when a meeting is covered from gavel-to-gavel with no editing and some of the participants happen to say things with which you disagree that it somehow constitutes propaganda on the part of the Madison City Channel?

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Postby jjoyce » Wed Apr 18, 2007 11:24 am

Taxed wrote:Well Saint Joyce, do you really think this a "News" piece?


I couldn't care less either way. I'm bothered only by your habit for personally attacking those with whom you disagree... and anonymously so. That's kind of your M.O.: Somebody proposes an idea, you attack them personally... and slither away. No ideas, no perspective, only venom.

Why would I want to get into a discussion about media, news or anything related to my job with a hateful screenname like yourself? You've proven over and over again an inability to bring anything to the table aside from insults.

And before you turn this into a whine about how it's just another instance of disrespect for right-wing views, know that I would have no beef getting into it with someone like Ned who has proven he has some basis of understanding media issues.

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Postby pulsewidth modulation » Wed Apr 18, 2007 11:29 am

Have any of you seen the butchered chicken that is supposed to be a symbolic representation of Jesus being crucified while it is barbequed on 2 logs in the form of a cross broadcast via city channel 12? I have seen it.

If this isn't left wing propaganda, I don't know what is. Of course, I'm sure jjoyce and "Isthmus" will defend this as a joke, But, nun the less, tax payers are footing the bill.

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Postby Oprah » Wed Apr 18, 2007 11:32 am

pulsewidth modulation wrote:Have any of you seen the butchered chicken that is supposed to be a symbolic representation of Jesus being crucified while it is barbequed on 2 logs in the form of a cross broadcast via city channel 12? I have seen it.

If this isn't left wing propaganda, I don't know what is. Of course, I'm sure jjoyce and "Isthmus" will defend this as a joke, But, nun the less, tax payers are footing the bill.


I think you're confusing Channel 12 and Channel 4.

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Postby misterman » Wed Apr 18, 2007 11:32 am

It's sad that we've gotten away from the stated topic of this post--that Austin King was a poor city councilman.

I believe this because King seemed to have zero respect for public funds. I strongly believe that public servants should be very cautious when raising and using tax money, keeping and creating only truly important programs, and seeking to make those programs as cost-effective as possible. So I believe you can judge most politicians based on the answers to these questions-- Did you help limit government action to truly important and crucial areas? Did you help the government act as efficiently and effectively as possible?
I believe King and other "progressive" Danes and Mayor Dave, all failed these standards. And thus a lot of public money (see the IZ program just as one example) has been flushed down the pooper during King's tenure. So, I would call him a failure as a city councilman.

And I say this as someone who would probably agree with King on a bunch of social issues, like gay rights, abortion rights, drug legalization, etc.

Does anyone know where he got into law school? The idea of him being an attorney is scary. As the maitre d' says in Ferris Bueller-- "I weep for the future."

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Postby jjoyce » Wed Apr 18, 2007 11:33 am

pulsewidth modulation wrote:Have any of you seen the butchered chicken that is supposed to be a symbolic representation of Jesus being crucified while it is barbequed on 2 logs in the form of a cross broadcast via city channel 12? I have seen it.


Um, you're thinking of WYOU, which is not City Channel 12. Two totally different things.

Incidentally, you could have a show on WYOU yourself, of course you'd need something to say first.

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Postby Grubendol » Wed Apr 18, 2007 11:33 am

You imbecile, that's on WYOU cable access and a completely different entity than City Channel 12. And neither are financed by our tax dollars, they're financed by a fee on your cable bill.

That's why nobody respects you, because you can't even get simple facts right. All ideology, no substance.

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Postby pulsewidth modulation » Wed Apr 18, 2007 11:36 am

jjoyce wrote:I'm bothered only by your habit for personally attacking those with whom you disagree...


Ooooh boy... Pot calling the kettle black... Yawn

So who is the "corporate media?" How is this straw man destroying "access?"

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Postby TheBookPolice » Wed Apr 18, 2007 11:42 am

pm, the typical stance of a winger like yourself is to attack content as a method to destroy means.

That is, you attack Janet Jackson's nipple as a way of removing the ability of broadcast television to air live material. "It could happen again!", your side shrieks. This time, you bring up the red herring of "Cooking with Bob."

I, for one, loathe CwB. I think it's stupid, hackneyed and very, very overrated.

But you cannot make the logical point that WYOU (which is not MCC12, for what it's worth) should be taken off the air because someone might put something up that is distasteful or offensive to you individually. I myself might shout "shitfuckgodDAMN!" in the middle of the Pledge of Allegiance at a sporting event, but that doesn't mean that either speaking or sporting events should be banned because that kind of thing might happen again.

Of course, this is the true color of the "libertarian" philosophy you espouse. It is not "let me do what I want to do in my own living room. It is instead, "let me do what I want in my own living room, and if I can see what you're doing in your living room and I don't like it, I want it to stop."

ADDED: Annnnd....I took too long to post this. Make this the XXth time you've been reminded that you've got the channels mixed up, dumbfuck.

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Postby bluethedog » Wed Apr 18, 2007 11:53 am

misterman wrote:So I believe you can judge most politicians based on the answers to these questions-- Did you help limit government action to truly important and crucial areas? Did you help the government act as efficiently and effectively as possible?

That's way too simple. A room full of Austin Kings OR a room full of Zach Brandons would both be a disaster. You need both of them to have a vital city. Exactly what percentage of each is ideal is debateable.


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