pragmad wrote:Kanye Westsider wrote:pragmad wrote:Mister_A_In_Madison wrote:pragmad wrote:No, the whole pt is the city doesn't have an elections bosrd. The state's will hear the case. Now. should they have looked up Madison's rule before answering? Yes, but that'd not the mayor's fault. His campaign asked the people who should hsve known.
This, again, speaks to a pattern of behavior... this time, ignoring (or being ignorant of) city ordinances.
If you will recall, the Mayor suggested plastering advertising on the recycling bins... within a few weeks of the City Council banning sidewalk advertising.
How does banning sifewalk advertising relate to Recycle Bins? You mean bins on the sidewalk? There are a lot of bins not on sidewalks. And I doubt he had much to do w/ checking the election legallity. He prob asked his staff to check and they did. Now, the state's board should have checked the city ordinance because they hear any case. My guess is he won't have to pay because clearly they were given wrong info.
dumbest. post. ever.
so you're saying that if somebody asks the european union about generic traffic laws, then drives in madison according to those laws. should they get off when they get pulled over for driving the wrong side of the road just because they were given "wrong" information? (btw - the information they were given wasn't "wrong". they were just too dumb to check local law).
Why should the election board have checked to see what local law is? The STATE elections board deals with STATE law. If you want to know local law, go to the local level. If you want to be able to just go one place and get all kinds of law, both state and local, hire an attorney.
btw - the "i didn't know" excuse didn't work to well for the people wrapped up in the caucas scandal.
You are missing the pt, maybe on purpose. The STATE ELECTIONS BOARD WILL HEAR ANY CASE that gets filed LOCALLY. THEY WILL NEED TO KNOW THE CITY'S LAW. It'll be really absurd for the board to essentially reverse themselves. I don't know, maybe the board didn't understand the question. Maybe it was a new employee who didn't know cities had local laws re: elections.
Are you a lawyer? Do you specialize in election law? Did you even take a basic civics class to earn about the different levels of government?
You seem like a slow reader, so I'll type slowly so you can follow along here.
Dave did not violate any STATE campaign laws. He violated CITY OF MADISON ethics laws. He will not be dragged before the STATE Elections/Ethics Board. He will be dragged before the MADISON ETHICS BOARD. This is a clear cut violation. He will be fined, censured or both. The only problem is hat this won't happen until the election is over. If he wins, then it send a signall for future campaigns that they can pull this stuff, and worry about the ramifactions after the election.
Bottom line, DAVE HAS COMMITTED AN ETHICS VIOLATION. Why are you defending somebody who has an ethics problem? Do ethics not matter to you? What are you going to say when Trolley Dave gets censured?
This is no different than Mark Green checking with the FEC about transfering his federal dollars to his 06 gov campaign, but not checking with the state elections board.