In light of Alder King's compact fluorescent proposal...

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Postby Bonzai444 » Wed Mar 07, 2007 3:04 pm

nevermore wrote:
Bonzai444 wrote:not garbage progressive ideas like Basford

For the record, my ideas are more sewer socialist than garbage progressive.

Not that I'd expect you to get that joke.


Thanks for the clarification, although you're right I don't get the joke nor do I see much of a difference between the two.

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Postby pulsewidth modulation » Wed Mar 07, 2007 3:04 pm

ShaneDog wrote:Did you even read the proposal?


Yes I did.

ShaneDog wrote:If you had you would have known that it only applies to rental units.


Well, that's what PD is portraying to the public right now. Seeing it is campaign season, I'm sure Lisa Subeck would lose a lot of support/votes if A. King immediately aimed for the jugular. I guarantee they will demand that every incandescent light in the city be replaced some time after the election. Lets just hope the price for these bulbs doesn't jump 20% in local retail outlets because of A. Kings tinkering.

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Postby Oprah » Wed Mar 07, 2007 3:05 pm

Bonzai444 wrote:To a working stiff like me they represent the issues that I think an alder on the city council should be concerning themself with.

Among the employed, what is the distinction that makes one a working stiff?

What are you if you're employed and not a working stiff?

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Postby roadkill bill » Wed Mar 07, 2007 3:10 pm

pulsewidth modulation wrote:Well, that's what PD is portraying to the public right now. Seeing it is campaign season, I'm sure Lisa Subeck would lose a lot of support/votes if A. King immediately aimed for the jugular.


Not sure if you are entirely clueless, or just throwing Lisa's name out as some sort of bugaboo (my guess would be the former), but Subeck isn't running for office.

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Postby small cheese » Wed Mar 07, 2007 3:12 pm

Paco wrote:I haven't found any bulbs to fit my lamps/lampshades. To use them, I'd need to buy new lamps.....so much for saving money on bulbs.

Maybe you can find what you need at this site.

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Postby Prof. Wagstaff » Wed Mar 07, 2007 3:14 pm

pulsewidth modulation wrote:I guarantee they will demand that every incandescent light in the city be replaced some time after the election.

What are you backing that guarantee with, exactly? 'cuz I definitely want a piece of that action.

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Postby lukpac » Wed Mar 07, 2007 3:16 pm

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Paco wrote:Mine are about 10 yrs old, they do take forever to warm up...I hear the newer ones are much, much faster.


The new ones are much faster.


Perhaps it depends. I just bought the ones I was complaining about a few months ago.

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Postby jhain » Wed Mar 07, 2007 3:20 pm

lukpac wrote:
jhain wrote:
Paco wrote:Mine are about 10 yrs old, they do take forever to warm up...I hear the newer ones are much, much faster.


The new ones are much faster.


Perhaps it depends. I just bought the ones I was complaining about a few months ago.


Hmmm. Maybe its because they are in the basement. They are sensitive to temperature.

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Postby lukpac » Wed Mar 07, 2007 3:22 pm

Bonzai444 wrote:
lukpac wrote:
Bonzai444 wrote:Perhaps maybe the city council should start worrying about the kinds of they are supposed to worrying about:

City services
Public Safety
Water Quality
Effective and Cost Efficient Transportation
Escalating Property Taxes


Vote Mark Deadman.


Actually Lukpac, that is the exact reason I am voting for Deadman. When he came by my door, that's what he talked about, basic city services, not garbage progressive ideas like Basford and SRC did. To a working stiff like me they represent the issues that I think an alder on the city council should be concerning themself with.


http://www.madison.com/wsj/mad/top/inde ... 36&ntpid=2

Residents of Near East Side neighborhoods whose water needs were served by a well that was shut down because the water contained high levels of an industrial carcinogen say they have plenty of questions about the safety of their water and the fate of the contaminated well.

They will be looking for answers tonight at a neighborhood meeting scheduled by six area neighborhood associations. At issue is water quality and the city's plans for Well No. 3, the contaminated well.
[...]
Rhodes-Conway, responding to concerns she said she heard from many in the area, organized tonight's meeting. She's with the Eken Park Neighborhood Association, one of the associations that sponsored the meeting.

Officials from the Madison Water Utility, the city of Madison and the Public Health Department are expected to be on hand to discuss problems and answer questions about both contaminants in the well and about what might happen to it.


"Mark Deadman: He doesn't care about garbage progressive ideas, he cares about garbage"
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Postby lukpac » Wed Mar 07, 2007 3:23 pm

jhain wrote:Hmmm. Maybe its because they are in the basement. They are sensitive to temperature.


It's cooler down there, but not cold.

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Postby jhain » Wed Mar 07, 2007 3:26 pm

lukpac wrote:
jhain wrote:Hmmm. Maybe its because they are in the basement. They are sensitive to temperature.


It's cooler down there, but not cold.


That could make the difference. You could try the same bulbs upstairs and see if they come up to speed quicker.

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Postby Chuck_Schick » Wed Mar 07, 2007 4:42 pm

pulsewidth modulation wrote:I guarantee they will demand that every incandescent light in the city be replaced some time after the election.

And what do you guarantee if they don't? That you'll admit you were full of shit? That you'll once again flee this forum? That you'll stop painting every progressive whose values don't mirror your own with the same broad and flailing brushstroke?

I mean, you're so damn sure of yourself, put something at stake. Let's make it interesting.

Somebody wanna hand me one of those CFL dealies? I think we've got a dim bulb here.

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Postby harrissimo » Wed Mar 07, 2007 4:50 pm

Chuck_Schick wrote:That you'll admit you were full of shit?


O yeah Chuck is a nice guy. He never says nasty things does he.

There is a certain freedom that comes from knowing that some jerk off has put you on ignore.

Hey Schick You Knob - Eat Me!

Hey Schick Your Momma Drives a Pickle Wagon!

Hey Schick Know any cover tunes?

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Postby Dulouz » Wed Mar 07, 2007 4:58 pm

harrissimo wrote:
Chuck_Schick wrote:That you'll admit you were full of shit?


O yeah Chuck is a nice guy. He never says nasty things does he.

There is a certain freedom that comes from knowing that some jerk off has put you on ignore.

Hey Schick You Knob - Eat Me!

Hey Schick Your Momma Drives a Pickle Wagon!

Hey Schick Know any cover tunes?


Are you complimenting him or baiting him?

Explain the pickle wagon thing--seriously--I never heard of it.

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Postby burstingsun » Wed Mar 07, 2007 5:03 pm

pulsewidth modulation wrote:Well, that's what PD is portraying to the public right now. Seeing it is campaign season, I'm sure Lisa Subeck would lose a lot of support/votes if A. King immediately aimed for the jugular. I guarantee they will demand that every incandescent light in the city be replaced some time after the election.

Since my name seems to have come up in connection with this proposal, I thought I should clarify that I am not running for any office so I don't really have any votes to lose.

If you're curious about my non-candidate opinion, I like the part of the proposal as it relates to common areas. I think it's silly to require the bulbs inside individual units.

Personally, I hate compact fluorescent lighting and would change the bulbs as soon as I moved in if I were a renter. Additionally, the landlord will realize the direct long-term savings (in our condo buildings, it took between one and two years to cover our costs via the energy savings when we replaced our common area fixtures) for the common areas but not necessarily for within the apartments, and that non-recoverable cost outlay could be huge if replacing fixtures and bulbs in a large number of units.

Beyond that, it seems reasonable to regulate energy use within the common areas of the building but not so reasonable to regulate it within individual living spaces.

That's just my two-cents and obviously does not represent the opinion of everyone in Progressive Dane. Yes, we do stray from groupthink, folks.

PS - Aaron Backer is the challenger to Jed Sanborn in District 1. Like I said, I am not running.


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