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Re: TDPF: whites only

Postby bdog » Sat Feb 04, 2012 6:42 pm

Okay Marvell, I'll drop the insults if you will.

Now show me exactly where I did this:

Marvell wrote:After all, you are the one who repeatedly suggested that the reason that there was so little black participation in the South Carolina G.O.P. primary is because 'they' didn't 'understand the process.'


Take your time, I'll wait and even bump the question if necessary.

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Re: TDPF: whites only

Postby rabble » Sat Feb 04, 2012 7:07 pm

bdog wrote:Okay Marvell, I'll drop the insults if you will.

Now show me exactly where I did this:

Marvell wrote:After all, you are the one who repeatedly suggested that the reason that there was so little black participation in the South Carolina G.O.P. primary is because 'they' didn't 'understand the process.'


Take your time, I'll wait and even bump the question if necessary.

I'll go look but I think you're just getting ready for another of your "I didn't do it exactly this way so it doesn't count" dances.
Ah. Here we go.
bdog » Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:35 am
It's an odd situation. We don't know what non-white voters were thinking. Since it's an open primary State there was nothing to prevent them from going to the polls (besides the usual logistics), and there were reasons they should have voted.

Did they not understand the process? Were they afraid? Were they encouraged not to go? Were they intimidated not to go? Was it a flash boycott?

So you're saying you never meant to suggest that they might have not understood the process?

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Re: TDPF: whites only

Postby bdog » Sat Feb 04, 2012 7:22 pm

rabble wrote:I'll go look but I think you're just getting ready for another of your "I didn't do it exactly this way so it doesn't count" dances.
Ah. Here we go.
bdog » Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:35 am
It's an odd situation. We don't know what non-white voters were thinking. Since it's an open primary State there was nothing to prevent them from going to the polls (besides the usual logistics), and there were reasons they should have voted.

Did they not understand the process? Were they afraid? Were they encouraged not to go? Were they intimidated not to go? Was it a flash boycott?

So you're saying you never meant to suggest that they might have not understood the process?

Yes! I re-posted that same quote yesterday. I did ask the question, as I did about possible other reasons. Now if you think I was suggesting that they were also afraid, encouraged not to go, intimidated not to go, or participating in a flash boycott, I guess I don't know what to say.

In any case, show me the quote where I brought it up or "suggested" it again

Marvell said repeatedly. I think that's a big distinction. Do you?

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Re: TDPF: whites only

Postby jasonx5 » Sat Feb 04, 2012 8:08 pm

I think they lied and said they were white.
Were you there counting and placing people into one category or another
Based on race?

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Re: TDPF: whites only

Postby rabble » Sat Feb 04, 2012 8:09 pm

bdog wrote:In any case, show me the quote where I brought it up or "suggested" it again

Marvell said repeatedly. I think that's a big distinction. Do you?

Ah. Fantastic nitpicking. No, it's not a big distinction at all.

In any event, thanks loads for clearing that up. You only suggested that "non-whites" might be stupid, once.

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Re: TDPF: whites only

Postby pjbogart » Sat Feb 04, 2012 8:15 pm

Meade wrote:
pjbogart wrote:We're talking about a guy who asserts that Hitler was a socialist (and by inference, a liberal).


Did pjbogart say "Hitler"?


Nice, did you bother to read the article you linked to or did you just stop when you saw the word "socialism?" See? It says socialist right there, he must have been a socialist!

It's precisely this kind of inanity that set up my railing against Althouse. As a prominent "intellectual," representative of the University of Wisconsin and tenured professor at the law school, she shacks up with a dumbass who actually believes that Hitler was somehow a Democrat and a socialist. Hey, the next time your hubby takes you to a faculty party, find Tom Palay, a prominent conservative who people actually respect and mention your theories to him. He's the tall dude with the bow tie. You might want to wear a helmet because he's liable to open the door with your head as he throws you into the street.

The shit that dribbles out of your mouth isn't just offensive to Democrats, Meade. It's offensive to anyone with a brain, conservatives included. Yet somehow it's ok with Ann Althouse which makes me not only question her judgement, it also makes me question her sanity. The University of Wisconsin deserves better representation than that.

Go back and read the article you linked. Really.

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Re: TDPF: whites only

Postby snoqueen » Sat Feb 04, 2012 8:24 pm

...if you think I was suggesting that they were also afraid, encouraged not to go, intimidated not to go, or participating in a flash boycott, I guess I don't know what to say.


I know what you could say, bdog. You could say what you think ARE the reasons almost no blacks voted in the GOP primary in SC.

Somehow you never get around to that. Getting an answer out of you is like chasing a squirrel that got in the house.

Don't go back to the "keep 'em on the defensive" tactic, either. You're wearing it out. Answer the damn question.

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Re: TDPF: whites only

Postby bdog » Sat Feb 04, 2012 9:58 pm

rabble wrote:
bdog wrote:In any case, show me the quote where I brought it up or "suggested" it again

Marvell said repeatedly. I think that's a big distinction. Do you?

Ah. Fantastic nitpicking. No, it's not a big distinction at all.

In any event, thanks loads for clearing that up. You only suggested that "non-whites" might be stupid, once.

Well Rabble you've repeatedly shown that whites are in fact stupid.

Thanks loads for clearing that up.

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Re: TDPF: whites only

Postby bdog » Sat Feb 04, 2012 10:03 pm

snoqueen wrote:
...if you think I was suggesting that they were also afraid, encouraged not to go, intimidated not to go, or participating in a flash boycott, I guess I don't know what to say.


I know what you could say, bdog. You could say what you think ARE the reasons almost no blacks voted in the GOP primary in SC.

Somehow you never get around to that. Getting an answer out of you is like chasing a squirrel that got in the house.

Don't go back to the "keep 'em on the defensive" tactic, either. You're wearing it out. Answer the damn question.

Sno did you even bother to read my post? Here, I'll put it up again, for the 3rd time:

It's an odd situation. We don't know what non-white voters were thinking. Since it's an open primary State there was nothing to prevent them from going to the polls (besides the usual logistics), and there were reasons they should have voted.

Did they not understand the process? Were they afraid? Were they encouraged not to go? Were they intimidated not to go? Was it a flash boycott?


Isn't it obvious I don't have a fucking answer to the damn question?

We don't know what non-white voters were thinking.

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Re: TDPF: whites only

Postby bdog » Sat Feb 04, 2012 10:07 pm

City2CountryGal -

What you are seeing Rabble, Sno and Marvell do in the above posts is what Meade does to you. He does it because that's pretty much how the liberals treat the conservatives on here. Turn about is fair play, so to speak.

I think once he see's that you are the rare liberal with a brain he'll knock it off.

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Re: TDPF: whites only

Postby bdog » Sat Feb 04, 2012 10:09 pm

snoqueen wrote: like chasing a squirrel that got in the house.

And why are you repeatedly getting squirrels in your house?

Better start cleaning up Sno, geez

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Re: TDPF: whites only

Postby bdog » Sat Feb 04, 2012 10:11 pm

pjbogart wrote:
Meade wrote:
pjbogart wrote:We're talking about a guy who asserts that Hitler was a socialist (and by inference, a liberal).


Did pjbogart say "Hitler"?


Nice, did you bother to read the article you linked to or did you just stop when you saw the word "socialism?" See? It says socialist right there, he must have been a socialist!

Meade is just using liberal tactics; he knows exactly what he's doing.

Why are you repeatedly bringing up Hitler PJ?

see what i did there?

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Re: TDPF: whites only

Postby snoqueen » Sat Feb 04, 2012 10:37 pm

We don't know what non-white voters were thinking.


That's it?

OK, it's an answer. It's logically defensible, since nobody can go to every voter and ask.

The Republicans spent a great deal of money and their PACs spent even more to influence what the voters were thinking, and a particular cohort of voters ended up staying away -- voters who might come in handy in the general election -- while another particular cohort or two showed up in good numbers. But no, we don't know precisely what any of them think and we cannot ever know. Not really.

All that money spent is sort of like an agnostic who pays a tithe to some church just in case there really is a hell, I suppose.

We cannot even wonder or speculate how it works, because that could jinx the process. That's why it's naughty to question why the voters acted as they did, I suspect. It's just magic, like a sorcerer who conjures up juju if millionaires throw enough money in a pot.

Do you make political donations? If so, why?

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Re: TDPF: whites only

Postby Detritus » Sat Feb 04, 2012 10:50 pm

bdog wrote:We don't know what non-white voters were thinking.

We certainly know what non-white voters weren't thinking: "Gosh, I'm voting in the Republican primary this year." That in itself tells us that they don't care who wins the Republican primary. And that, in turn, tells us that, whether the Republican party itself speaks to non-white voters or not, this slate of candidates did not draw their support.

Why do you suppose that was? You don't need to know what the voters were thinking to speculate on that question--you can draw on your knowledge of the candidates, their platforms, and the issues facing non-white voters to make an educated guess.

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Re: TDPF: whites only

Postby pjbogart » Sun Feb 05, 2012 12:32 am

bdog wrote:Meade is just using liberal tactics; he knows exactly what he's doing.

Why are you repeatedly bringing up Hitler PJ?

see what i did there?


I don't recall "repeatedly" bringing up Hitler. I suppose that's a reference to your spat with Marvell.

Did you care to comment on whether you think Hitler was akin to a liberal Democrat? A simple yes or no will do.

Let me give you a leg up... Democrats believe that we should use taxpayer dollars to take care of the poor and the disabled. Hitler shoved them in ovens after extracting any precious metals they had in their teeth.


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