Endo Rockstar wrote:As a side note, my one hope that comes from all of this drama is we see one dude dressed up on State Street for Halloween with a pink fake mustache and a Lyft t-shirt offering "free mustache ride-shares."
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Stella_Guru wrote:And like the 2nd Amendment which preserved the slave patrol militias in southern states, the 1st Amendment was also ratified by slaveholders to preserve their free speech to defend and promote slavery.
I am so using that line
Donald wrote:There are two kinds of people in this world. I'm the third. When it comes to the church of baseball, and the Brewers in particular, I'm, as the song goes, a believer. If there's a collapse in May, well, there's resurrection in June or July or August or September. It ain't over till it's over. I heard that once when I made it up from what I remembered of what someone else said.
Given the brutal context of today,
The message within this writing resides betwixt truth & soothsaying...
The message within this writing resides betwixt truth & soothsaying...
Re: Cliven Bundy Wants To Tell You All About 'The Negro'
by Donald » Fri Apr 25, 2014 10:45 pmsnoqueen wrote:Are those communities net "givers" or "takers" of public money?
In other parts of the country the net takers tend to be the same areas that are adamantly anti-government in many regards, with is beyond ironic. I was wondering if the part of the west in this story fits that economic profile.
It's hard to say. I'm not familiar with this particular area, but in general there are more takers in the West.
Much of the rural West was/is built on extractive industries, which are often taking place on federal land. There has always been a love/hate relationship with the federal government.
In rural counties that don't have energy resources their maximum populations were reached shortly after statehood, and they've been declining since. That's 100 years of decline in these areas. If you survive, it tends to make one feel one is superior if one can hang on. They tend not to dwell on how much they are taking from the federal government. They think because they live a hard life (and ranching is hard), they deserve everything they get, even if it is largely subsidized by the federal government. They believe they would have a better life if the federal government would let them use federal resources they way they want to.
Some of these guys are "wise use" folks, and they briefly got involved in the "Sagebrush Rebellion," but they generally don't want a lot of privatization of federal land, unless it is just handed over to them. They know the corporations, the plutocrats or Hollywood types would end up with the land, and they would be run off.
The counties which have grown in population required significant federal subsidies or inputs, eg., water projects, national laboratories, or defense installations, or they have coal, oil, or gas resources (much of which are on federal land). The larger towns and cities have manufacturing or service sectors that tend to be more oriented to servicing the federal government (eg., the defense industry) or are low-end call centers. Of course, there are the tourist areas in the Mountain West, and Utah is a Mormon socialist Republic.
There is often a philosophical split between the declining rural counties and the growing towns and cities.
So, what you've got are people who are dependent on the federal government, on federal land or resources and/or on federal policies, and who resent it. But what they resent more are any folks who might compete with them for the federal resources they get, which is why they want to cut federal programs that don't go directly or indirectly to them.
gargantua wrote:If you are a non-believer, you are an atheist. Don't sugarcoat it. Don't pussy foot around it. If you run for public office in the United States of America, you will be asked about your religious affiliation. If you are a "non-believer" you will have no chance to be elected to any public office that matters in this country.
This is despicable. This goes to the heart of something someone posted on another thread about how they couldn't believe the people of this country could be stupid enough to vote for a particular candidate. What a joke. They are stupid enough to disqualify anyone who does not share their unprovable superstition. May God strike me dead before I
Donald wrote:Here's an idea taken from what the Republicans have done to the Post Office: if you want to have a war, first you have to fully fund upfront the lifetime medical costs that are going to result in the veterans of that war.
Prof. Wagstaff wrote:Donald wrote:Here's an idea taken from what the Republicans have done to the Post Office: if you want to have a war, first you have to fully fund upfront the lifetime medical costs that are going to result in the veterans of that war.
ninja wrote:I remember making a delivery to the 2nd floor once and having to take the elevator back down to the 1st, which disrupted the elevator ride of a very drunk, very important princess who gave me an ear full about taking the elevator for just one floor. She would have had a point if I hadn't been carrying a very obvious, big, red, insulated pizza bag. So I made her aware of that fact once we got off the elevator, and told her that she better never order a pizza from us or we'd know and I'd be called in to deliver it upside down.
Sandi wrote:Same in Janesville except ( I think ) most of the city carries U-verse. As much as I dislike charter, I can't say no just for spite.
The only good thing about U-verse is something to hold over Charters head to entice them to give new contracts to non-new customers. When they tell me that U-verse is slow, I tell them that I'm retired and only use internet mostly for email to keep in touch with family and friends. That isn't true, but they don't know that.
let them have it tiger!
I mean this.
I see there is a "disruptive" pushback coming from the 'extracted'.
Nice to know your side on this issue.
Donald wrote:My mother's parents came over from Germany, escaping the pre-WWI militarism and economic hardship of Europe. Members of my grandmother's family actually went back to Germany because they were homesick, then re-immigrated back here when conditions got ever worse in Europe. They didn't have any restrictions on coming here. They just got off the boat, registered at Ellis Island and settled where they wanted.
They all settled within miles of each other along the Iowa-Minnesota border, finding farm land that was pretty cheap because it was pretty wet. They were hard working people, as all pre-mechanized farmers were.
When I think about immigrant children I think of my grandparents, who came here as children. They didn't know any English, but they learned fast. They were both scared and excited to be starting a new life here, but they were relieved to be out of the troubles of their home country. It seemed that here they could be what they wanted to be--just ordinary farmers.
During WWI , there were demonstrations in some places against "the Huns," but my grandparents never said if they experienced any hateful epithets. My grandmother was such a happy, optimistic person that I doubt anyone's hate could survive her laugh. I think of her when I think of the kids at the border.
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