Ban or No Ban? An advisory referendum.

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Ban or no?

Ban
23
53%
Don't ban
20
47%
 
Total votes: 43

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Re: Ban or No Ban? An advisory referendum.

Postby fisticuffs » Fri Apr 17, 2009 12:50 pm

Also Thanks a ton jjoyce. I don't envy the slew of emails you will undoubtedly receive. The board will be better for it.

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Re: Ban or No Ban? An advisory referendum.

Postby white_rabbit » Fri Apr 17, 2009 1:25 pm

jjoyce wrote:Okay, I finally pulled the plug


...and scene.

has led to a little email exchange which, believe it or not, is even more stupifying than the Forum version.


Print them out and bring them to happy hour to share.


Thank you.

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Re: Ban or No Ban? An advisory referendum.

Postby blunt » Fri Apr 17, 2009 1:59 pm

Aagh! jjoyce, I am sorry for every harsh thing I've said---pleeeeze put my order in for one of the laminated dream journal transcript swatchbooks!
My coffee table beckons!

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Re: Ban or No Ban? An advisory referendum.

Postby gozer » Fri Apr 17, 2009 3:45 pm

if u are talking about altervative voice, i am confused. i thought alternative voice was a creation of the admins -- did it sort of go off on its own like in that film short circuit?

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Re: Ban or No Ban? An advisory referendum.

Postby Peanutbutter » Fri Apr 17, 2009 3:57 pm

gozer wrote: i thought alternative voice was a creation of the admins


You're thinking of "Ned Flanders".

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Re: Ban or No Ban? An advisory referendum.

Postby supaunknown » Fri Apr 17, 2009 4:53 pm

fisticuffs wrote:
If it's an act, it's a pretty convincing one.

I just don;t know how someone could be so committed to that insanity without actually being insane.

AV was fully committed to his bit. I was never sure if was schtick or what. In the end it was just annoying.
Something tells me we haven't seen the last of this nutter.

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Re: Ban or No Ban? An advisory referendum.

Postby Bad Gradger » Fri Apr 17, 2009 10:14 pm

Honestly, I much prefer Internet forums ruled with an iron fist to a free-for-all.

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Re: Ban or No Ban? An advisory referendum.

Postby nevermore » Fri Apr 17, 2009 10:20 pm

Andy Kaufman is somewhere laughing his ass off at this thread.

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Re: Ban or No Ban? An advisory referendum.

Postby boston_jeff » Fri Apr 17, 2009 10:26 pm

Who's Fred Blassie in this scenario?

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Re: Ban or No Ban? An advisory referendum.

Postby TheBookPolice » Fri Apr 17, 2009 10:26 pm

boston_jeff wrote:Who's Fred Blassie in this scenario?

Marvell, obviously, you pencil-necked geek.

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Re: Ban or No Ban? An advisory referendum.

Postby HeyZeus » Fri Apr 17, 2009 11:18 pm

jjoyce wrote:Okay, I finally pulled the plug...


Ahhhhhhhh.

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Re: Ban or No Ban? An advisory referendum.

Postby boston_jeff » Fri Apr 17, 2009 11:22 pm

TheBookPolice wrote:
boston_jeff wrote:Who's Fred Blassie in this scenario?

Marvell, obviously, you pencil-necked geek.


Nice. Very nice.

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Re: Ban or No Ban? An advisory referendum.

Postby snoqueen » Sat Apr 18, 2009 2:47 pm

In all the years that I've been a regular on this board, I do not recall snoqueen ever advocating for the banning of anyone. I wasn't going to weigh in on this as I've resolved a few days ago to ignore AV's childish rantings and everything AV, but if snoqueen says it's time to show AV the door, I say 'bye-bye".


Watching the forum over the years, I've learned a few things. People may be able to ignore stupidity and purposely provocative postings, but they take a toll on the forum as a whole. Good topics degenerate, good writers get fed up and go elsewhere, and the traffic that remains is of poorer quality than Madison Newspapers', if such a thing is possible.

I am as big a supporter of civil liberties as anyone else, but this isn't a civil liberties question, it's a business model. We who participate do so in cooperation with a business, and when participants are damaging that business they have to go. It's that simple.

If AV thinks he can attract traffic to his own blog or can find a site that will leave him alone and let him post his stunningly boring, self-centered nonsense, more power to him. But Isthmus found he was doing more damage than good -- killing topics and driving people away -- and they quite rightly closed the tap.

I think the moderation on here has over the years been quite rational. There's a big difference between the forum's (wisely few) Neds, who function like the straight man in a comedy duo, and the AVs, who put us to sleep. That's the fine line.

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Re: Ban or No Ban? An advisory referendum.

Postby gozer » Sat Apr 18, 2009 3:29 pm

why don't u people add an exclusion (kill-file) type option to i.d.p.f. itself or add a separate php-perl filter page (or downloadable html page or other script/programme) which can be used to view i.d.p.f. with extra tools including kill-filing?

that way, the thin-skinned folks can browse in peace and remain with us too.

i make no judgement on whether kill-filing is really a good idea; but it would certainly be popular and solve a lot of this.

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Re: Ban or No Ban? An advisory referendum.

Postby Huckleby » Sat Apr 18, 2009 5:07 pm

snoqueen wrote: I am as big a supporter of civil liberties as anyone else, but this isn't a civil liberties question, it's a business model. We who participate do so in cooperation with a business, and when participants are damaging that business they have to go. It's that simple.


This explanation doesn't flush. I've been a semi-regular reader of these forums for many years, and I didn't even notice this AV guy until I read he was being banned. The notion that he was driving posters and surfers away from the site is baloney.

AV was banned because a circle of thin-skinned people had a little anti-AV party, which did become annoying and disruptive. Why is it OK for these people to be so vitriolic?

AV is unpopular. The admin runs a popularity poll to confirm his unpopularity. AV is kicked off the Island.

I suppose if the definition of a troll is somebody who intentionally upsets people, then AV had it coming. I don't like that broad standard.


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