ALRC to prohibit bands from drinking at performance venues

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ALRC to prohibit bands from drinking at performance venues

Postby bill6beers » Mon Jan 11, 2010 2:30 pm

ALRC to prohibit bands from drinking at performance venues

The evening of 1/20/10, in the City/County Building, room 201, the Alcohol License Review Committee will take up Alder Michael Shumacher's resolution to ban ANY alcohol consumption by people working in taverns or restaurants, whether they are employees or *independent contractors* ie, musicians.

Here is the text of the proposal and the city's analysis of it:

DRAFTER'S ANALYSIS: This proposal makes it unlawful for any individual in a licensed retail alcohol establishment to consume alcohol beverages while working or performing services in the establishment.
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The Common Council of the City of Madison do hereby ordain as follows:
Subsection (8) of Section 38.06 entitled “General Provisions and Hours” of the Madison
General Ordinances is amended to read as follows:
“(8) It shall be unlawful for the licensee, agents, officers, directors, partners, members, managers of the licensee, or any employee or independent contractor of a licensed establishment, including members of the licensee’s immediate family, to drink or
consume any alcohol beverage or to be under the influence of an intoxicant, or a controlled substance or a combination of an intoxicant and a controlled substance, while working or performing services on the licensed premises.”


MUSICIANS: If you wish to continue to receive beer and cocktails while working your craft in bars and restaurants, or even to have a drink before playing, you are urged to voice your objections at the meeting or via email to any of these ALRC members:

SPONSOR
Michael Schumacher
district18@cityofmadison.com

CHAIRPERSON
David A. Hart
dahiii@hotmail.com

ALCOHOL POLICY COORDINATOR
Katherine Plominski
kplominski@cityofmadison.com

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Re: ALRC to prohibit bands from drinking at performance venues

Postby Bluehead » Tue Jan 12, 2010 11:22 am

Get ready for the longest thread in daily page history.

First....the police can't find my $6000 worth of stolen equipment without out ourhanding over the thief..and they still blew it..

right .....and these dudes are going to inforse this law??? ... Let's increase taxes to put on an alcohol squad in the bars will be next.
Hell put the crew that screwed up my case on this new TASK FARSE...parking enforcement is full
THIS IS LAUGHABLE...are these delusional law makers elected?

what time does this start?

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Re: ALRC to prohibit bands from drinking at performance venues

Postby Dairylander » Tue Jan 12, 2010 11:26 am

What is the motive behind this?
This shit takes time and energy to draft, so where is the return for them?

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Re: ALRC to prohibit bands from drinking at performance venues

Postby Bluehead » Tue Jan 12, 2010 11:36 am

Motive: prohibition

First they came for my cigarette, but I wasn't a smoker....ect, ect,

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Re: ALRC to prohibit bands from drinking at performance venues

Postby juanton » Tue Jan 12, 2010 11:37 am

bill6beers wrote:SPONSOR
Michael Schumacher
district18@cityofmadison.com


Bill, you left out some important information:

Home Address:
517 Nova Way
Madison, WI 53704
Phone: 608-242-1779

http://www.cityofmadison.com/council/di ... 7656323560

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Re: ALRC to prohibit bands from drinking at performance venues

Postby Endo Rockstar » Tue Jan 12, 2010 11:58 am

I will play my guitar and have a beer while doing so. I'm sorry. I'm a horrible person.

Someone play devil's advocate here better yet, get Michael Schumacher in here and defend himself...how will this benefit owners, employees, patrons, and the community as a whole?

What need did he see in our community which he thinks he can solve with this resolution?

Dan Motor

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Re: ALRC to prohibit bands from drinking at performance venues

Postby butters » Tue Jan 12, 2010 12:02 pm

Dairylander wrote:What is the motive behind this?
This shit takes time and energy to draft, so where is the return for them?

"It's somebody opining who has a very strong agenda and will push that agenda at any cost.... No wonder Ms. Konkel is no longer an alder.", said Alderman Schumacher.

Does this fall into the "push that agenda at any cost" category?

http://www.thedailypage.com/isthmus/art ... icle=27849

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Re: ALRC to prohibit bands from drinking at performance venues

Postby minicat » Tue Jan 12, 2010 12:07 pm

Well, any arguments by the ALRC that their mission is not to try and finish off live music in Madison are pretty much exposed as total and complete bullshit. This is a great companion to the ordinance proposed to force musicians to get a license to play on the street. What a joke.

Where's Mayor Dave on this?

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Re: ALRC to prohibit bands from drinking at performance venues

Postby eriedasch » Tue Jan 12, 2010 12:07 pm

Bluehead wrote:right .....and these dudes are going to inforse this law???

According to the Mission statement of the ALRC they are supposed to:
...reduce expenditures on alcohol-related issues...
Unless there is some kind of problem with the current situation that this law would attempt to correct, wouldn't this bill do just the opposite and cost additional taxpayer money in enforcement?

Bluehead wrote:THIS IS LAUGHABLE...are these delusional law makers elected?
They sure are elected and maybe some concerned musicians, bar owners, bartenders, patrons, music supporters, etc. need to band together and start informing people in Schumacher's district how he is spending (wasting?) his time creating solutions looking for problems. Regulations already exist for bartenders, servers, and other employees that distrubute alcohol to the general public not being drunk on the job.

Anyone out there remember the group "Watch The ALRC"? I think we need a new group called "Watch Council member Schumacher". Might also be helpful to find someone to run against him in the next election.

Bluehead wrote:what time does this start?

01/20/2010 Wed 5:30 PM ALCOHOL LICENSE REVIEW COMMITTEE

Meeting adgenda: http://legistar.cityofmadison.com/calendar/#current

And not to give Schumacher all the credit, Mayor Dave is also listed as a sponsor of this bill.

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Re: ALRC to prohibit bands from drinking at performance venues

Postby Pogoagogo » Tue Jan 12, 2010 12:22 pm

So, what's with Schumacher's War on Fun? I can sort of see legislation that prohibits bartenders from being intoxicated on the job, since they do have responsibility not to over-serve patrons, but prohibiting musicians from drinking beer? Come on now. This is creating legislation to solve q problem that doesn't seem to exist.

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Re: ALRC to prohibit bands from drinking at performance venues

Postby rrnate » Tue Jan 12, 2010 12:47 pm

I guess this means we're going to have to just stick with huffing glue between songs now. New decade, new rules baby!

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Re: ALRC to prohibit bands from drinking at performance venues

Postby eriedasch » Tue Jan 12, 2010 12:48 pm

Pogoagogo wrote:I can sort of see legislation that prohibits bartenders from being intoxicated on the job, since they do have responsibility not to over-serve patrons
Yes, of couse, and that makes sense. And there are regulations in the license you need to bartend that already cover this.

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Re: ALRC to prohibit bands from drinking at performance venues

Postby gargantua » Tue Jan 12, 2010 1:07 pm

Pogoagogo wrote:So, what's with Schumacher's War on Fun? I can sort of see legislation that prohibits bartenders from being intoxicated on the job, since they do have responsibility not to over-serve patrons, but prohibiting musicians from drinking beer? Come on now. This is creating legislation to solve q problem that doesn't seem to exist.


He has a problem with our "drinking culture" here. I wish he would just move away.

I can't do anything about him, but I am never voting for the incumbent mayor again.

Madison has a long history of battles between prohibitionists and people who, you know, have a life. This is just another example of it.

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Re: ALRC to prohibit bands from drinking at performance venues

Postby Endo Rockstar » Tue Jan 12, 2010 1:11 pm

I'm moving to district 18..... its on.

-Danimal H. Motor Esq.

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Re: ALRC to prohibit bands from drinking at performance venues

Postby minicat » Tue Jan 12, 2010 1:12 pm

Another perspective: What are touring musicians gonna think about this? You think Madison gets passed over a lot now, wait until something like this would go into effect.


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